;The reaction to one being a Catholic Trump Supporter could go either way: How can you support Trump with him having all those migrants deported? The flip side could be, how can you be Catholic with their opposition to Trump policy?
Guess which reaction would belong to a liberal? The other could be from a conservative. I'm a Catholic and Trump supporter-voted for him 3x-so i think i'm qualified to speak to the issue.
I'll attempt to reconcile the Pope is infallible but that does not extend to all matters. Before anyone gets al worked up it doesn't mean sinless either.I'm sure that's obvious from some of the Popes we've had, including Peter.
A Pope is infallible when speaking ex cathedra (from the seat of Peter)re faith and morals NOT when he is expressing an opinion.
The Church has taken its side on the matter of immigration and Trump's policy.This is not an infallible teaching. I'm free to disagree on the matter. When the Pope speaks infallibly i submit to the Church's authority. It's not complicated.
We can always discuss if the Church has this authority; i believe it does so that's how i make decisions. When it's only an opinion I take that into consideration
Let's take a look at the Catechism of the Catholic Church (highly recommend reading it) and see what it says about civic responsibility.
"It is the duty of citizens to contribute along with the civil authorities to the good of society in a spirit of truth, justice, solidarity, and freedom. The love and service of one's country follow from the duty of gratitude and belong to the order of charity. Submission to legitimate authorities and service of the common good require citizens to fulfill their roles in the life of the political community."
CCC 2239
First of all, charity is a voluntary act. When the government takes money from our labor and uses it for anything without our knowledge or consent that's not charity. Charity is when we donate to causes we believe in.
We act out of love or concern, not an agenda.Theere is an old axiom, charity begins at home. We are also obligated to obey our laws as long as they don't violate our conscience. Finally, I can't see that the chaos, mayhem,disorder and violence this mass migration has caused is for the good of society.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “Human society can be neither well-ordered nor prosperous unless it has some people invested with legitimate authority to preserve its institutions and to devote themselves as far as is necessary to work and care for the good of all. . . . Every human community needs an authority to govern it. . . . Its role is to ensure as far as is possible the common good of the society.” (nos. 1897-1898) CCC further qualifies that authority is legitimate “only when it seeks the common good of the group . . . and if it employs morally licit means to attain it.” Such “common good” is also the standard for an acceptable political form..."
Source: https://www.acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/volume-6-number-2/catechism-catholic-church-state
Slavery is not legitimate law. It is wrong on many levels. Abortiion is not legitimate law. It is also wrong on my levels.There is no difference. You can't justify either one.
I know that violence of the left is not an acceptable way to address political disagreements and the Catholic Church would never condone the violence of the left we've been subjected to in the United Sates. it's not helping that it seems like Pope Francis is either ignoring it or not aware of it.. I believe it's the latter. Did he not catch all the anti Catholic garbage Biden was pulling?
The Democrats are not supporting these illegals out of compassion.What they're seeing is votes so they're exploiting these people for their own agenda and companies see them as cheap labor- not to mention the drugs and trafficking including child sex trafficking.
We DO welcome immigrants-as long as they enter LEGALLY. There is a way to do it- that shows respect for our laws.
On this issue i have to disagree with some in our Church.
Furthermore, Pres Trump and VP Vance support the pro life movement, protect religious liberty and our freedom of conscience.
The Democrat party has become totally corrupt. I have no problem being a Trump supporter. NONE.
I'm convinced that some in the Catholic Church have a lack of understanding when it comes to political issues.
In fact, i've often wondered if they don't put the issue of immigration over the issue of abortion. i think that's the wrong order-it should be other way around. Keep in mind this is my perception. Don't take it to the bank.
Of course, matters of conscience are religious, not necessarily political but they can overlap. We don't cease to be Catholic when we enter the voting booth.
]I am NOT attacking the Church and i do respect the Pope.i've thought for some time that Pope Francis has a different mind set than his predecessors Benedict, and John Paul II because of the different experiences in their formation.
Pope Francis came from South America. John Paul II and Benedict lived through Nazism and Communism in Germany and Poland.. I question whethe or not Francis was influenced by liberation theology; John Paul II had no time for it.
Finally, i can't see why the needy of other countries can't be helped while they remain citizens of their own countries.
Our government can work to influence the governments of those countries. It makes more sense and is more apt to reach the people who truly need the help. It's also voluntary meaning it's actually an act of charity. Our citizens are some of the most generous in the world.They are always willing to help.
There's nothing morally wrong with putting America First. Our President is president of our country and his first obligation is to our own citizens. He's not President of the world.
If only some of these governments actually cared about their own people.
What fries me is liberals who will question how i can be Catholic with Trump's immigration policy but look the other way when it comes to abortion. They question how i can support women's "rights" and listen to the Church. They can also quote scripture when they know they don't have the time of day for the Bible or Christianity.
Please, don't take my criticism of the Church as being anti Catholic. Far from it. i grew up ini a neighborhood around several Catholic families. We were friends and all attended Catholic school taught by the Sisters of Mercy.
Our family went to Mass every Sunday. The rule was, if you were too sick to make it to Mass, you were too sick to play outside.
There was a time when i drifted away from the Church but like many who did the same thing i came back with a greater appreciation of its value. I also know anti Catholic bigotry when i see/hear it. I heard it as a youngster. We weren't sure John F. Kennedy could get elected because he was Catholic,
I was a crazy liberal for years influenced by the youth culture of our time. Choices have consequences. It wasn't a pretty outcome. Sooner or later you have to wake up,Long story. Let's skip it. Suffice it to say, i returned to the Church aka as a Caholic revert,
What Pope Francis doesn't understand is that we had a full scale invasion going on for nefarious purposes; not to mention human trafficking, sex trafficking, drugs, murder/violent crime and support of corrupt governments,
We have a legal process-use it We ask that you respect our laws.Maybe Congress should consider making the legal process a little easier, The people who do it the right way have to jump through hoops while the illegals walk in by way of a red carpet. The Biden regime was flying them in, housing them, feeding them, giving them credit cards etc. I would call that the red carpet treatment. How fair is that to those who come legally?
They stood against the evil empire together and won!
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